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How would you go to the bathroom in an iron lung? I just read an article about a woman who died after 60 years in an iron lung. How would she have relieved herself? She could not have just gone on the sheets for six decades.
I would also like to know what measures they would have taken to keep her lung sanitized. That is, presuming that had some way of channeling her waste out of the lung, what would they do to eliminate the other waste and odors that humans produce (e.g. sweat, saliva, oil, etc.). How do people in an IRON LUNG go to the bathroom? I just recently found out what an iron lung is. To my understanding, this device helps patients breathe who otherwise would be unable to. But where does the waste go??? Can they ever leave the chamber?
Thats terrible. Could imagine what it must be like to be bed ridden your whole life?? Your legs would turn to rubber. awesome! replied: "wait if it has to do with breathing
then why would it have waste"
raid1830 replied: "Catheder"
Luke N replied: "they probably have them hooked up to stuff that empties it out into some kind of container"
Matthew B replied: "they would use tubes,just like in a coma"
smartypants909 replied: "Its called a catheter, a tube into the baldder which then empties into a bag. They don't get up."
thomas_clover replied: "Yes, they leave on a regular basis. An iron lung is seldom used for more than a couple of hours at a time. A respirator does an efficient job for long term use. The iron lung is best considered as a type of respiratory therapy, rather than an actual housing facility. There are now iron lungs the size of hospital rooms, complete with air locks, for patients who need an iron lung full time."
greydoc6 replied: "Fortunately, modern ventilators have made the Iron Lung largely obsolete. Most polio victims could breathe on their own for a short time out of the ventilator. Many patients had a modicum of bladder control, or an aide could express urine by pushing on the pubis. If that failed, a catheter was used, or large diapers (Attends weren't invented at that time).
Bowel movements were a real problem. Given the largely liquid diet, sedentary life, and inability to increase abdominal or pelvic pressure, many polio sufferers were either incontinent of stool, or required enemas for constipation."
B H replied: "We need to distinguish between modern ventilators and "the iron lung" which encased the upper chest and abdomen and, through alternate suction and pressure, would breathe for the patient. They were not portable and the patient could not sit up or move around, as you can with modern ventilators. So patients would have to use bed pans. When it came time to clean them, the iron lung could be rotated so that nurses could clean their bottoms. They were only practicable in cases like polio, where the patient could recover some control over their respiratory muscles in a month or two. If they did not, then they would be removed, AND THE FAMILY WOULD GATHER BY THE BEDSIDE. I am old enough to remember those polio days. One of my classmates died that way. Another one died of measles! And many of my classmates were partially deaf or blind because they had German Measles (Rubella) in utero. I just don't understand how people can willingly refuse to immunize their children against these killer diseases.
Addendum: OK. I admit to being overly dramatic. And I didn't mean to imply that the decision was imposed on the patient. Then, as now, patients and their families were allowed to make a choice. And they could choose "to let nature take its course." My classmate and her family did make such a choice. I am not "wrong," I just have had different experiences than some others."
sue replied: "I grew up in a town with a Children's Hospital full of Polio victims. The people in the iron lungs were encased almost entirely in the things and could not move much. And the doctor is wrong!! They were NOT removed to die untreated with the family gathered around them.
I knew a lot of the patients as we were taken as a school group to sing frequently at the hospital, and as church group to help entertain the children suffering from the effects of this dreaded disease.
I married a polio victim and he is now having some breathing problems along with the loss of his hard earned ability to do things but maybe in a different way from others. He is suffering from severe pain now!
Ok, the nurses had special diapers for the people in the iron lungs. There were doors on some of these contraptions for changing the diapers. The people were taken out from time to time for the lung to be sanitized and the people to be bathed and returned to the lung.
Yes, it was horrid!!
What would be even more horrid is if people don't have their children immunized from the diseases that were such killers and maimers of the past just because there is a very minute chance they might get something else. It isn't worth it people!!!" What does the body of a person who has been in an Iron Lung for 50 years look like? I saw an interview on youtube about a woman who has been in an iron lung for 50 years. She had Polio and I was wondering what her body looks like now? Does someone clean her body? If so, how if she needs it closed to stay alive? Thanks. What does an iron lung look like and how does it work? I'm curious after reading this article.
How do people use the bathroom in it, get fed, etc.?
So, in the old style iron lung in the case of this woman, because she had to be in it 24 hours a day, did they have to change her diaper or colostomy bag in record time? I mean, because she would essentially stop breathing while the iron lung was open at any point... yes? Did she just go without air while they did this? What exactly is an iron lung? And what does it do? 「Buta Uri」♥『聴豕』 replied: "It's a large machine your body goes into and forces air in and out of your lungs when you can't breath on your own."
Kayla replied: "its for perople who cant breathe for there selves. they usually use it when someone has polio. u stay inside of it and u cant really move."
net replied: "An iron lung is a medium-sized machine that enables a person to breathe when normal muscle control has been lost or the work of breathing exceeds the person's ability. It is a form of medical ventilator. Properly, it is called a negative pressure ventilator
Also a song"
Brokeback pubes replied: "If you asked someone in Canada it would probably have to do with smoking weed."
pinkduck replied: "An iron lung is a machine that enables a person to breathe when normal muscle control has been lost.An iron lung is a type of medical ventilator."
chrissy replied: "The devices and theories used in these experiments were built upon ideas that came about mostly during late eighteenth-century movements in Western Europe that were focused on "the recovery of the apparently drowned, or dead" through artificial respiration.1
At first, the doctors involved in the movements established some basic methods of resuscitation, including: warmth, inflation (very similar to modern rescue breathing), fumigation, friction, stimulants, bleeding a vein, and vomiting. Within nearly 50 years, most of these methods had been removed from practice. Popular support of these methods led to greater scientific exploration into effective resuscitation and artificial respiration methods.2
This exhibit explores the development of the iron lung during the late nineteenth and early twentieth century and considers the reasons for its success during the height of the poliomyelitis epidemics. Andrew Sallans, Historical Collections Specialist, researched and compiled the content for the online and physical exhibits. The design of the online exhibit was conceived and executed by Steve Stedman, Webmaster for the Claude Moore Health Sciences Library."
Skitz61 replied: "An iron lung is like a giant metal can that forces air through the lungs so the patient can breathe. It is usually used for patients with polio because they can't control the muscles in their lungs. I think there is a vaccination for polio now so iron lungs aren't very common."
careercollegestudent69 replied: "It's an apparatus that you put people into in the old days that could not breathe because of whatever illness or injury they had, and it would breath for them. It is a giant metal tube hermetically sealed around your chest, that would pump the air out which would pull on your chest and expand it, therefore, pulling air through your mouth. Then it would pump air back in and push on your chest, thus pushing the air out.
They use intubated tubes and masks, with machines to do this now." What happened to the iron lung? What do the children who needed to use the iron lung because they contracted polio use today? I know they are probably old, but still... 0475839216 replied: "there's probably been some innovative invention that is an update to the same medical device but that is also very helpful"
crottychop replied: "i need to get iron lungs with steady aim
and hit lv 49 to get the barret 50. cal
ur talking cod 4 rite?"
D'Artagnan Pluck replied: "most of them are dead, since polio was basically eliminated in the early 1960's . But iron lungs still exist. You just do not hear about them much anymore."
Ella replied: "Hmmm, a hyperbaric chamber maybe (or is that the same thing??? concentrated oxygen at a high pressure?)"
Dave replied: "The Iron Lung was replaced by respirators. The Iron Lung was the only way they could think of ventilating the lungs of the patient . It basically was a negative pressure chamber that removed the air from inside it which caused the patients lungs to expand. We have much better ways of doing that today. Anyone that can't breathe adequately for themselves are put on a respirator as life support until the doctors can treat the underlying problem. This has increased survival of patients with a wide spectrum of conditions that cause the lungs to fail.
To trace the history of respirators would be a fun thing for me to do someday just because of their contribution to medicine in general but especially to emergency and critical care medicine. Besides the innovations are really quite interesting, obviously to someone who knows about things like that. Like Respiratory Therapists. The care,maintenance, and monitoring of respirators is within the pervue of the Respiratory Therapy Department. They are also intimately involved in the care of critical patients both in the ER and in ICU's. I was privileged to have been a Respiratory Therapist for 35 years and witnessed the progression from the Iron Lung to today's computerized wonders.
God bless." Can I know about iron lung and other respiratories disease?? please this news article about the iron lung lady really depresses me? And I don't know why it does
I'm familiar with deaths, trauma, sad things, whatever
but this story REALLY hits me hard, and I don;t know why
it's not even terribly sad compared to somethings that happen
idk, i'm just really sad now
like, in a slump
I feel like this ruined my whole day
...and I don't even know the lady or family or anything |
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